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Clusmas · Aug 08, 2006, 11:37 AM // 11:37

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Originally Posted by Rampager

also i know this is kinda off topic but why do we pay $100 for games? when most other places are $50?

Taxes/duties.

lg5000 · Aug 08, 2006, 01:34 PM // 13:34

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Originally Posted by Inner Salbat

Next you'll be asking for a /hucker emote, sorry for the spelling but I didn't grow up in NZ, so Maori is very alien to me, I still think there swearing constantly when they speak

They should make a class have the Haka as dance

preferably a warrior-type class. After all, the Haka is the Maori war dance.

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Originally Posted by Rampager

also i know this is kinda off topic but why do we pay $100 for games? when most other places are $50?

That's US$50.00 which works out about.. AU$70? I'm guessing shipping costs make up for the rest.

Lady Lozza · Aug 08, 2006, 02:38 PM // 14:38

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Originally Posted by Irongate

Not

http://www.gamesman.co.nz/product.php?id=6282

I bought Factions prerelease from Gamesman in New Zealand and got the prerelease box. Simple, don't use EB.

Trust me, in Australia, EB has a monopoly, period. I've no idea how you got so lucky in NZ, but GW is not sold outside the EB chain in Australia - not even in our online stores. Personally I order from the UK I have for the last 3 years, I pay a lot in postage to get it, but it still works out cheaper (or just as much) as buying from EB, and at least I'm garanteed to get it, get it on time or even before it hits the shelves here.

elektra_lucia · Aug 08, 2006, 02:39 PM // 14:39

Pointless thread that isn't constructive, and you don't see "England has favour". America is a continent, despite popular belief it isn't FACT that North America is Canada. For some, America includes Canada.

I think maybe Australia is its own continent that deserves its own favour, and maybe you should be put in with the American's. The problem to this is - you'd have such a stacked game.

I've seen PVE and PVP side of both servers. Americans excuse for not having favour "not many Americans PVP". Ha, this is actually rubbish.

More Americans PVP. More Americans PVE. This means - if you put Australians in with Americans, you're going to have such a different ratio it'll be unfair.

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also i know this is kinda off topic but why do we pay $100 for games? when most other places are $50?

www.google.com look up politics, tax, wealth, things about countries etc.

Krugz · Aug 08, 2006, 02:55 PM // 14:55

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Originally Posted by Roshi_ikkyu

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Where a nice guy ignored my question (Why do I have to view prices in Pounds when I live in Australia, and we use the Australian Dollar? ) With a almost irrelevant reply of "Unfortunately, we do not accept payments in Australian dollars at this time. We apologise for any inconvenience this causes."
I understand that they wouldn't accept payment in AUS$, my question was why do I have to view prices as pounds?!! I guess I could or should blame the language barrier. Or maybe I was to vague. :headdesk:

Australia and New Zealand default server being European!
Cause you know in a country that speaks english, that is a colony from England, and located somewhere in the big blue ocean near Southeast Asia/ Oceania, Its only logical to place us in a server that doesn't assist our timezone. And a Server that is populated with people speaking afew different languages.
I know there are english districts, but try telling that to poor Joe Ele, in a guild where 85% speak french! No wonder soo many jump to USA server.
But then to find out that Anet classes Australia and New Zealand as European for support and account purposes! ZOMFG.

Where is the love, Anet..... Where is the love!
IGN Roshi Ikkyu

1) I didn't bother reading through the reply posts, so if I blatantly repeat something, forgive me.

2) Why would they bother converting all their prices into the Aus $ when you can't pay in that currency? if they do that, they might as well convert it into some "magic $ from the great beyond", because it's just about as useful. If you're in Aus, and you want to buy something with Aus $, you can't. So, you need to know the prices in what they DO accept, you'd be complaining if you only could see the prices in Aus $ when they don't even acccept that currency,wouldn't you?

3) Europe > Australia in terms of # of gamers/ importance to Anet. Anet is a business, they go where the money and the majority of players are. It's not Anets fault that they don't want to pay an group of support techs for a group of players that probably makes up less then 10% of all the players. It's sad, but that's how it is with ALL companies.

4) As for the delayed deadlines, ya that sucks.. but timezones and such always messes stuff up.

Roshi_ikkyu · Aug 08, 2006, 03:55 PM // 15:55

Posts like the last two makes my brain sad!

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Originally Posted by Krugz

1) I didn't bother reading through the reply posts, so if I blatantly repeat something, forgive me.

2) Why would they bother converting all their prices into the Aus $ when you can't pay in that currency? if they do that, they might as well convert it into some "magic $ from the great beyond", because it's just about as useful. If you're in Aus, and you want to buy something with Aus $, you can't. So, you need to know the prices in what they DO accept, you'd be complaining if you only could see the prices in Aus $ when they don't even acccept that currency,wouldn't you?

3) Europe > Australia in terms of # of gamers/ importance to Anet. Anet is a business, they go where the money and the majority of players are. It's not Anets fault that they don't want to pay an group of support techs for a group of players that probably makes up less then 10% of all the players. It's sad, but that's how it is with ALL companies.

4) As for the delayed deadlines, ya that sucks.. but timezones and such always messes stuff up.

Yeah your right, you did repeat EVERYTHING thats already been said. And you don't even know about half of it! Timezones didn't screw Aus over in the last release!
Solution I'm not even going to reply to most. Why? If you can't take the time to read a thread before posting in it; don't bother posting!

The reason for price listings is: I like to know how much something cost, cause no matter the currency when the bill is due I pay in AUS$ (maybe extra for conversion depending on the payment system), yes true converting isn't that hard to do.... oh wait then why doesn't Anet do it? or atleast have a option to convert?.... Mmmmm faulty logic!

And as for elektra_lucia It was NEVER..... NEVER about Australia having favour, but being short changed via default districts and pre-releases media.
And elektra_lucia, don't look now but majority of Aussies and NZ's and possible other ill represented english speaking, timezone neglected regions, are already in the US(NA) territory!
It would just be wonderful not to be forceable defaulted to a multi-lingual district!

Eleazar · Aug 08, 2006, 04:00 PM // 16:00

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Originally Posted by Lady Lozza

Trust me, in Australia, EB has a monopoly, period. I've no idea how you got so lucky in NZ, but GW is not sold outside the EB chain in Australia - not even in our online stores.

I believe they got them in 'outside' of the normal distribution channel.

Why oh why did NCSoft sign up with EB Games for distribution down under. Seriously weird decision which will ALWAYS hamper the growth of the game in this region. Although I suspect growth in Oceania in any shape or form doesnt warrant its own Pie Graph in the Marketing meetings hence why this arguement is devoid of any real meaning to those that matter.

It drives me nuts when I go into every other PC Store, Dept Store, Warehouse and even friggen Officeworks and see 'u know what' lining the shelves, while GW collects dust on the bottom shelf of the local EB Outlet.

I live in Europe now I can tell you that I go into just about every store that sells PC Games and see Factions, even to this day lining shelves prominently.

I dont suspect things will change and EB will continue to provide abissmal coverage for GW and little benefit to NCSoft as a distributer in the Oceania Region.

Linkusmax · Aug 08, 2006, 05:00 PM // 17:00

I'm quite lucky in that my local EB gave me my pre-order disc but I had to specifically ask for it. I did have a bit of a talk with the manager and he told me when he informed his customers of the CE delay he was threatened with violence a few times. I must admit I laughed. In actuality my EB is pretty good in general. Much better then other EB's I have been too.

Krugz · Aug 08, 2006, 05:11 PM // 17:11

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Originally Posted by Roshi_ikkyu

Posts like the last two makes my brain sad!

Yeah your right, you did repeat EVERYTHING thats already been said. And you don't even know about half of it! Timezones didn't screw Aus over in the last release!
Solution I'm not even going to reply to most. Why? If you can't take the time to read a thread before posting in it; don't bother posting!

The reason for price listings is: I like to know how much something cost, cause no matter the currency when the bill is due I pay in AUS$ (maybe extra for conversion depending on the payment system), yes true converting isn't that hard to do.... oh wait then why doesn't Anet do it? or atleast have a option to convert?.... Mmmmm faulty logic!

1) I asked you to forgive me because I'm at work, I'm just taking a break.I don't have time to read through all the pages of posts. If you're going to be rude to people who are simply trying to answer your questions, you deserve a "sad brain". I was honestly only stating why I thought they wouldn't bother using Aus $. I didn't say "This is the absolute 100% correct reason for why they must not be showing you it in Aus$:". All I said was that was probably Anet's thought process, "Lets not convert it to Aus$, we don't even accept it." You know what kind of amazes me the most though? "It's not so hard", so do it yourself?

gg

2) If timezones didn't screw you over, hurrah. Good for you, really. I would think something so trivial could hinder the process, I ordered some stuff from Aus to USA and it took well over two weeks, I figured the same might happen backwards, if not worse.

Sheol · Aug 08, 2006, 05:22 PM // 17:22

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Originally Posted by Eleazar

I believe they got them in 'outside' of the normal distribution channel.

Why oh why did NCSoft sign up with EB Games for distribution down under. Seriously weird decision which will ALWAYS hamper the growth of the game in this region. Although I suspect growth in Oceania in any shape or form doesnt warrant its own Pie Graph in the Marketing meetings hence why this arguement is devoid of any real meaning to those that matter.

It drives me nuts when I go into every other PC Store, Dept Store, Warehouse and even friggen Officeworks and see 'u know what' lining the shelves, while GW collects dust on the bottom shelf of the local EB Outlet.

I live in Europe now I can tell you that I go into just about every store that sells PC Games and see Factions, even to this day lining shelves prominently.

I dont suspect things will change and EB will continue to provide abissmal coverage for GW and little benefit to NCSoft as a distributer in the Oceania Region.

Closest EB to me is 400km away. if they want to reach a bigger market i would suggest different distribution tactics. Almost thought i wouldnt get factions but about a month after its release i managed to get it. missing out on the tengu event etc.

but at least i got it

(though would have preferred earlier)

Lady Lozza · Aug 09, 2006, 01:54 AM // 01:54

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Originally Posted by Sheol

Closest EB to me is 400km away. if they want to reach a bigger market i would suggest different distribution tactics. Almost thought i wouldnt get factions but about a month after its release i managed to get it. missing out on the tengu event etc.

but at least i got it

(though would have preferred earlier)

Well I certainly hope that Anet/NCSoft is getting our message.

Australia is one of the most computer literate conutries in the world. On average there are 3 computers per household, and the vast majority of us know how to use them.
Being more computer savvy than a large proportion of the western world, recent studies have shown that we are MORE likely to buy ONLINE, especially if the store concerned is AUSTRALIAN. We are more cautious of buying from overseas companies online. This is the MARKET REALITY in Australia. Add that to the fact that we don't have EB stores in every town, and perhaps you might come to the conclusion that distrinbuting GW in Australia through even only a single (major) online game retailer would not only make it easier for current customers, but yield more sales overall.

Inner Salbat · Aug 09, 2006, 03:38 PM // 15:38

You know it's not just the currency that is the problem here, I just noticed and it didn't twig before, I've no idea why maybe I am as thick as 2 short planks, but before I installed factions my territory count was 4, after I installed Factions, it is now set to 3, when I install nightfalls (changing the darn thing from European to American) it will be 2, so basically I can install 2 more chapter into my account 'after' nightfalls, and then the next chapter will be stuck in European territory, so why doesn't this appear as a problem?

Will ArenaNet provide 'free of charge' for those that live in places where we get GW from European places, but it is preferable that we play on American servers due to lag etc, 5 more zone chances ?

And if our territory is selected as Amercan is should display at least the US price not the European one anyway, I'd have expected European if my territory was selected as such, but it's not, so at the very least it should be American.

Mr.Deflok · Sep 17, 2006, 11:47 PM // 23:47

So have any kiwis got the pre-release package yet? Because all the EB's in the city I live in (Wellington) don't even know what it is.

SerenitySilverstar · Sep 18, 2006, 01:41 AM // 01:41

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Originally Posted by Mr.Deflok

So have any kiwis got the pre-release package yet? Because all the EB's in the city I live in (Wellington) don't even know what it is.

Just rang the EB I have my pre-order at (Northlands, Christhchurch), and they say they haven't arrived yet.

Knightsaber Sith · Sep 18, 2006, 01:46 AM // 01:46

We already have a thread or two about the Australian situation in the Nightfall section. I don't think we need to bump a month old thread just to further ask if anyone got the prerelease pack yet just cause it's in another section of the forum.

Gaile Gray · Sep 18, 2006, 03:22 AM // 03:22

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Originally Posted by Knightsaber Sith

We already have a thread or two about the Australian situation in the Nightfall section. I don't think we need to bump a month old thread just to further ask if anyone got the prerelease pack yet just cause it's in another section of the forum.

I'd tend to agree.

We really will address the PBP issues -- I know our NCsoft Europe folks are working on any issues even as I write! In the meantime, let's let this thread rest, since it's about an unrelated topic.

xDusT II · Sep 18, 2006, 12:27 PM // 12:27

Yeah I just pre-ordered my collectors edition just to find out that I would have to return next week to collect my pre-release pack and then return again to pick up Nightfall..

And the whole European thing isn't a major thing, I just swapped over to American. If there was an Asia and Oceanic server, there would be no-one aound and all servers would be near empty thus wasted...

Roshi_ikkyu · Sep 24, 2006, 02:09 PM // 14:09

I'm starting to wonder if Australia will get any Anet love.

I mean there was the Euro minipet mag release lately, And since Australia is classed as the newest state of the EU in Anet terms, make me wonder if we are doomed to miss out on all event offered in our server selections

We most likely won't receive any US extra material, I can understand that. Plus our pack don't come from the US and our support is from EU.

But with the mag give away/ bonuses from the UK and such we are just as unlikely to be offered any such items.

I mean we got the BP for nightfall, alil late but they got here. (We'll see about the game before I sing your praises Alex

)

But what are the chances of Australia and New Zealand and the smaller regions that are forced to be refugees in foreign quaters, being offered special items connected to mag and other such give away?

devilru · Sep 24, 2006, 02:19 PM // 14:19

I rather A-Net spend their time and money on other things then giving us an exclusive Mini-pet.
Wouldn't you rather have A-Net implement Re-connects to make up for Australia's trash internet connections instead?

Roshi_ikkyu · Sep 24, 2006, 09:34 PM // 21:34

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Originally Posted by devilru

I rather A-Net spend their time and money on other things then giving us an exclusive Mini-pet.
Wouldn't you rather have A-Net implement Re-connects to make up for Australia's trash internet connections instead?

Well my internet connection is already wonderful I rarely err7. So trash... not here.

Such offers/ specials are being conducted anyway, were are just missing out.